By Lipa Rath

Jan 27 2020

This took place 2 years back, on Saraswti Puja, 2018. I was still very new to my test QHHT practice. Never expected that this kind of encounter was possible and I would have a conversation with Lord Shri Hanuman ji!!!

After “fear of death” comes “fear of being ridiculed”. I was meeting a childhood friend who was visiting from Singapore. When I told her that Hanuman ji came to my session, she just looked at me. She was kind n sweet enough not to say anything, but her face said, “I must take Lipa to Fortis Hospital and get her examined by a psychiatrist!”

It was overwhelming for me to come to terms with what happened; things that I asked him as a novice practitioner and the answers that I received.

My client was in his 30s. He didn’t have a good job and was unable to get married and settle down. The family worshipped Hanuman ji for generations, he also believed in him.

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I asked him how can he help my client:

“I show you the path. But Lord Shiva gives”

Hanuman ji- Mushkil hai.. Khud pe niyantran nahi hai. Ab mein kya kar sakta…? Main to ek sevak hoon, main Shri Ram ka bhakt hoon, unhi ke seva mein rehta hoon… (he choked when started to talk about Shri Ram) Prabhu Shri Ram hain… main toh kuch bhi nahi. Har kisi ko rasta dikhata hoon… Ram, Ram, Ram, Ram… Mujhe toh yeh hai Prabhu Shri Ram khush hojaye kaise bhi… Jai Sri Ram…

The room had such an overpowering presence!

He continued, “Iske pitaji ne puja to ki hai mere, kripa bhi kiya maine, per vicharniya nahi hai. Kisi ke nahi sunte. (Father was an autocratic man), Iska to time lagega.

Lipa- Hum phir kaise madat kar sakte hain?

Hanuman ji- “Damru dikh raha hai, jatayu dikh rahi hai… Shankar ji ki puja karni hai. Woh prasanna hoke kuch karenge. Bholenath ji, mera pitatulya, woh karenge…main to janta hoon.. Kahin nahi jaana hai, man main puja karni hai.

L-Yeh kya sab alag alag hain?

Sab ek hi hai. Main bhi to unhi mein se hoon.

L- Toh aap kyun nahi theek karte ho?

H- Kya aap sab ki elaj kar sakte ho? Agar kisi jor pidit ko kisi anya vaid ke pas le jaya jaye jisko pata nahi ho, toh kahan se theek karega? Bholenath hai. Mera kaam rasta dikhaneka. Main sevak hoon sabka. Main kripa karuga. Main raasta dikhata hoon. Aap aayiye. Mujhe batayiye pida, phir main rasta dikhaunga.

L- Uska matlab woh theek hojayega.

H- Bholenath hai woh!! Arre koi shivling pe chadh gaya tha bel patri todne ko, kahte hain insaan hi kehte hain usko! Pure Bholenath hi utar aye the. Kehte hai, log bel patri chadhate hai, tu toh khud hi chadh gaya.

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“His Omnipresence”

L- Aap kahan rahete hain, Hanuman ji?

H- Main?… Jaahaan Ram katha ho… Ram… mere priya Ram… Jab bhi mere Ram yaad aate hain, mere aansu bahten… main hamesha unka seva karna chahta hoon. Koi cheez unse to bade nahi hai!

L- Prithvi pe hum kya kar sakte jissse pida kam ho?

H- Awadhi (limit) hai har cheez ki. Har vyakti ki, har pida ki. Kya Lakshman ji ko pida nahi huyi thi? Pida hai to nidan (diagnosis/solution) hai… Jabtak andhera nahi hoga toh aapko prakash ka mulya nahi pata lagega? Pida hai taki jab khushi mile toh us prasannata ka mulya kya hai.

Yeh sansar bana hua hai. Yeh ek maya hai.

L-Maya hai to Bhagwan banaya kyun?

H- Maya?? Khel racha hai…

L- Par hame is khel mein kyu phasaya gaya hai?

H- Aap apni swayecha se usme bhaag liye ho. Ab aap bhul chuke ho, aap ne bola ke main yeh part nihbaungi, aap nibha rahe ho… Isne bola yeh part nibhayega…

Parantu hota kya hai ki part nibhane mein, kayi cheese unkahi hoti hain aur hum unko jaan nahi pate. Manusya jeevan toh jee leta hai, lekin kyu jee raha hai yeh to jane! Yeh prithivi, yeh swarya mandal, yeh sab maya hai.

L- Swarg mandal, bhi maya hai?

H- Pure bhamhand maya hai. Prabhu Sri Ram Vishnu ke avatar hai. Vishnu ke samne yeh maya kuch nahi hai. Woh jahan rahte hai, jis jagah rahate hai, woh is brahmanda se bahar ki hai. Yeh brhmanda, aise kai brahmanda hai. Yeh Shiv ji ka ansh hai. Yeh kai kai brahmanda hai, yeh Shiv ji pe samahit hai.

L- Hmmm…

H- Sab cheez shiv ji bani hui hai, aur isi main Vishnu rahte hain aur isi main brahma rahte hain … har koi isi main rehta hai.

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“Extraterrestrials- life on planets and universes”

L- Aap bol rahe hain dusre bhi bramhanda hai. Wahan kaun rahte hain?

H- Prani.. kai prani hai… jaise aap manav hain, waise wahan par bhi hai.

L- Unko kya boltein hain?

H- Unko? Unko prani hi boltein hain. Kayi bhashayen hai, iski koi sankhya nahi.

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Faith- Absence of Doubt

L- Jo aap ko puja karte hain aap kya sab ka sunte hai, Prabhu?

H- (Haha, he chuckled) Sunne ko kya hai, main toh har kisi ka sunta hun. Parantu sunna na sunna nischit karta hai is prapt par ki manushya ka “man” kaisa hai?

L- Hmmm…

H- Man mein jo aap ke bhav hai, desh matra sandeh nahi hai, toh sunli jati hai…

L- Acchaa, toh sandeh hame rokta hai!

H- Haaan… sandeh hi toh hai! Jaise, main Prabhu Sri Ram pe bileen hoon, har samay unki dhyan karta hun, naam japta hoon- mujhe sandeh nahi hai. Prabhu Ram mere sunte hai. Aise hi sandeha na hone par aap ke man ki gati se aap ki koi bhi baat suni jati hai. Aap ko sandeh nahi kar na hai.

Par Bholenath hai. Woh toh kripa karnge. Bola na bholenath ka puja karo. Main to Balbrahmachari. Waise bhi tum mere puja karoge aur asha karoge, main toh is mein unvaigan hoon. Main nahi janta.

Sita maiya ne Parvati ki puja ki thi Ram ji ko paane ke liye. Shankar ji ki puja ki jaati hai. Sansaarik maya hai jo, usse jodte hai. Kyon ki, Shankar ji ka hi sharir hai jahan bramhanda samaaya hua hai. Yeh unhi ke chalayamaan hai.

Vishnu ji hai, woh aap ke palan karta zaroor hai, parantu jab aapke paas kshamta nahi hogi kisi cheez ko lene ki toh uska palan kya kar paoge?

L- Shivji palan karte hai?

H- Shiv ji dete hain. Sab bholenath ka hi hai. Hai kya unka unhe khud nahi pata. Yeh to Vishnu ki maya rachi hai shiv ji ke sharir main. Bholenath ka sharir, woh toh aisa hai ki kitna bhari hai, kitna vishal hai… Un-ginat(countless) brahmanda hai, usme ungeetanat Vishnu hai, ungeenat Brahma – sab shristi rach rahe hai… sab maya rach rahe hain. Parantu dene ki kshamta ya lene ki shamta usi main hain jiske ander rach rahe hain. Aap palan kar sakte hain, parantu le de nahi sakte.

Khud mere Prabhu Shri Ram hain, kintu jab lanka par vijay ke liye Shiv ji ko toh pujan kiya hi kiya tha… tabhi lanka vijay hui thi.

Manokamna sidhi, ya koi bhi, woh to Bholenath hi denge… woh toh unhi ka department hai. Vishnu ji ka department to gyan bantna hai. Aap bolo gyan chahiye, mera dept rasta dikhana aap ko. Main path pradarshak hun. Aap mukhe bhaj te ho, main Ram ko bhaj ta hun.

Vishnu ji gyan ke bhandar hai, Brahma ji gyan ke bhandar hain. Kintu yeh jo maya hai asal main, yeh maya hai kin ki? Yeh vishalta toh Bholenath ki hai! Denge bhi to wahi… par aap mang kahin aur rahe ho phir keh rahe ho milte nahi hai.

Sab hai isi sansar main. Kintu raste alag hain. Aap ko sahi jagah mein mangne ki deri hai. Aap pure shahar main bhatko, par nagar seth ke ghar mat jao, pjir kaho ki, ‘main toh sham ko bhukha so gaya…’

L- Bahut acha laga aap se baat kar ke. Kya phir kabhi ayenge, baat karne?

H- Haaan… (very softly) yadi samay raha toh. Mere paas mein samay hota hai… lekin Prabhu Shri Ram ka charanbandhano main mere ko kuch abhas nahi rehta. Bhakton ki pida kaan mein padti hai, toh bas main path pradarshak hoon, path dikha deta hoon aapko – is tarah jaana hai- ab aap ko nahi samajh mein aya toh main kya karoon?

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Shiv ji and his mother, Anjani

L- Abhi toh Shiv Ratri araha hai…

H- Bholenath ki Shiv ratri!! Arre main toh jaunga…(sounded very happy!)

L- Kahan jayenge aap?

H- Utsav mein… utsav manate hai log.

L- Kya sab jaa sakte aap?

H- Main toh sab jagah ja sakta hoon… Mere pita tulya bholenath ka utsav hai! Main wahan bhi jaake jai Sri Ram, Jai Shri Ram karta hoon. Pitaji bahut khush hoten hai.

Prasang hai, jab mata ne kaha pita ji se, “tumahun ram ram dinrati, sagar japa hua ananta rati”.. aap bhi Ram, Ram karte rahe ho subah se sham tak, aise kya hai?” Bade khush hote hain Pitaji.

L- Aap Shiv ji ko pitaji bhi bulaten?

H- Haan.. main unhi ka toh ansh hun.

L- Mata kis ko mante hain?

H- Mata meri Anjani hai… Anjani mayiya…

L- Woh kahan reheti hai?

H- Woh apni sthan par hai. Unka yeh sthan abhi door hai. Main toh vicharan karta hun. Mera kya hai… main toh sab jagayen reh sakta hun na, mere ko to mere pitatulya Shankar ji se bardan hai.

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“Archangel Michael”

L- Mujhe kai log batayen hain ki aap aur Archangel Michael dono ek hai.

H- Archangel Michael? Naam to kabhi suna nahi!

L- Mikhail bhi bolte hain?

H- Dekhiye, manushya hai, kisi bhi naam se pukare, kintu jab tak sahi naam se nahi bulaye tab tak koi nahi ata hai…

Parantu, bhaw sahi honi chahiye. Agar bhaw sahi nahi hai toh samasya hai. Sandeha hai to samasya hai… aap kisi bhi dwividha main pareshani main rahiye, agar aap ka samasya hai, aur aap nidan chahate hain, toh sandeha na kare.

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“Mata Saraswati”

L- Aaj Sarawati mata ki puja hai. Aap unke bare mein kya kahenge?

H- Mataji ki veena bajne se hi toh sansaar mein surya uday-surya asth hota hai. Mata hi to sab kuch karti hai, jitney bhi vaaniya hai… manushya ki vaani, ya kisi jeev ki vaani … aati unhi se hai…

Swar hai, aap bhi bolte hai, par yeh aati kahan se? Saraswati ki veena se. Vaani hai, vaani wahin se aati hai. Aaj mata ka pujan hai…? Gyan mein bharpur hai… parantu, us sansarik gyan nahi deti. Jo gyan chahiye (in a strong voice) atma ka, parmatma ka.

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“Lord Srajan’s knowledge and higher ages”

L- Aise koi bhagwan hai jo hame bata sake kaise naye cheez sansaar mein lana hai? (I was thinking for creating worlds/innovation… new ideas for creation)

H- Srajan ka gyan chahate hain aap? (yes) jaise nayi cheez lane ko? Srajan ka gyan Brahma ke paas mein hai. Parantu, manusya ke paas nahi ho sakta?

L- Kyun?

H- Aane wale samay mein, aaj nahi kai hazar saalon ke baad, ya kai hazar saal pehle yeh gyan manushya ke paas tha. Is yug main nahi. Yug, ya samay… samay chakra hai..dekhiye ek cheez gyan kya hai? Gyan bahut taral hai. Buhut jaldi phehelta hai gyan. Itna vishal bramhanda, ya bramhandian suji, abhi manushya is gyan ko graham karne mein saksham nahi hai.

L- manushya tayiyar nahi hai…

H- Jab aap chahte huye bhi dekh nahi paate… Kya aap mujhe dekh sakte?

L- Nahin…

H- Par main toh aapko dekh sakta hoon.

L- Mehsoos kar sakta hoon ki aap idhar ho, par main aapko nahi dekh sakti hoon.

H- Toh yehi hai! Agar aapko gyan hota to aap dekh sakte the. Haan aap ki atma mehsoos kar sakti hai, par aap ke aankho ke upar parda dala hua hai.

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“Knowing God”

L- Bhagwan ke bare mein sochtehi mujhe rona kyu aata hai? {If you are a qhht practitioner you should not ask personal question in your client session. I was new to the practice then.)

H- Kaun sa bhagwan ke bare mein?

L- Jisu Krishna ya Sai Baba…

H- Kis baat pe rona aata hai?

L- Yahi ki unke paas kuch hai jo mere paas nahi hai, aur mujhe wohi chahiye…

H- Aap kya sochte hain? Kya ek jeevan chakra mein sab graham kar lenge?

I got my answer!

Fumbling yet feeling so ecstatic, I expressed my deep gratitude for coming over to my session and for giving me an opportunity of having a conversation with him.

L- Jai Shri Ram!

H- JAI, JAI, Shri Ram!